Let's talk local sports

Submitted by Right Fielder on Sun, 12/11/2005 - 11:21pm.

As my online nom de plume might suggest, I care about sports and I have lots of strong opinions about how sports are covered.
What I don't care about is how the Blazers, Oregon or Oregon State are covered (basically, anything that comes with a buffet and a heated pressbox).
That said, I'd like to hear your opinions on how (and how well) local media outlets -- mostly daily and weekly newspapers and occasionally TV -- cover local sports. Most of what I'm interested in is how your local high school teams and small colleges are covered.
Who does a good job? Who works hard? Who just sucks and who doesn't even try?
And for those outlets you think could be saved or improved, what should they do differently?
If we get some response on this, I'd be happy to share some of my thoughts later, but I don't want to taint the jury pool, so let me know your opinions.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Mon, 12/12/2005 - 7:19am.

It's a long way from being comprehensive, but it does focus on prep sports. Gonna improve dramatically in a short time, too.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Wed, 12/14/2005 - 11:23am.

with the board, Cliff.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Mon, 12/12/2005 - 10:39am.

Dwight Jaynes, who never has a good word for women's sports, nor for soccer, couldn't bring himself to acknowledge the national champion Pilots, but dwelled lovingly on Lincoln HS football and his goofy, mostly dead crusade to see a major league baseball team come to Portland. At least he's consistent. As in consistently clueless.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Mon, 12/12/2005 - 5:53pm.

First, with the reclassification in high school sports will the coverage remain to the biggest class only? The current 4A gets almost all the attention these days. Will the same be true for the new 6A?

Local newspapers seem to do the best in terms of high school coverage. The O has to pick and choose, especially with football. There’s only so many tv cameras in town so only the big games get covered. But, after a while there’s so much local town coverage that it looses it’s novelty to the kids when it’s the same star athlete every week.

The O won’t cover anything non-OSAA, so there’s never any Lacrosse, Water Polo or Ski coverage.

And what about those O prep writers? Do they do anything else but write maybe two stories a week?

The new thing I noticed a few weeks ago is what some kids at Lake Oswego are doing (www.lakerbroadcasting.com). They get their school online and do a fairly good job.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Tue, 12/13/2005 - 6:44pm.

Um, that's not accurate. The O doesn't have lacrosse, water polo or ski beats, but there is coverage. Water polo championships have been covered for at least the past two seasons. There have been features on lacrosse, along with agate, when there's room. There has been some zoned coverage on skiing in the last six seasons, and a feature on the high school leagues in this winter's ski special section.
It's not that the paper won't cover non-OSAA sports, but that's the first criteria. What would you suggest as the criteria?

Submitted by Right Fielder on Mon, 12/12/2005 - 11:55pm.

Thanks to the couple of you that posted, but I've got to say I was hoping for more.
More opinions about more different sources -- is one of the TV high school football shows better than others (or less cheesy?)? Or does one of those stations actually cover (gasp!) girls sports on a regular basis?
Does anyone actually read the weeklies and twice-weeklies that really cover high schools on a regular basis, and if you do, are any of them better than others? Is there something there that another newspaper might learn from and use to actually improve?
As to your above posts, thanks again. I've been to oregonsports.com, and while you're right about it focusing on local high school sports -- good for them on that front -- its stories are, well, kind of weird in their presentation and riddled with typos (not to mention the occasional factual error), but go see for yourselves and say what you think.
As for Dwight Jaynes, I agree with the cluelessness about the Pilots but don't have a problem with him talking high school sports once in a while, though I bet it's been the better part of a decade (if not two) since he's been to a high school game.
And finally, on the 'O', yes they have to pick and choose what they cover because of the wide net they cast, but let's get real -- the 'O' obviously doesn't care much about high school sports. And maybe they shouldn't, what with being the highest circulation daily in the Northwest -- they've obviously got bigger fish to fry. But even at that, boy do they ever not try very hard. I mean, two stories per week by their prep writers? I don't think so. Maybe during the heaviest weeks of playoff time (and maybe not, too), but during the regular season it's "Let's avoid all games and write one lame-ass feature a week accompanied by a practice photo" and some briefs.
Or maybe that's just my opinion.
Let's hear what you think.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Tue, 12/13/2005 - 12:46pm.

Hey, send that site, oregonsports.com, an e-mail about your concerns/comments. Maybe that'll have a positive impact.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Tue, 12/13/2005 - 11:56pm.

What do you mean with the comment "the 'O' obviously doesn't care much about high school sports' " You suggest they have just two stories a week by the prep writers. That's simply not the case. There are game stories (football is played once a week, wait for basketball coverage) notebooks and features, along with a centerpiece story every Tuesday. Is the Tuesday piece the "lame-ass feature accompanied by a practice photo" you refer to? Different stories appear in different zones. Why? Because people actually do care about high school sports. Especially about high schools in their area, which is why some coverage is zoned.
And smaller papers do a very good job with prep sports, boys and girls. Why? Because people actually do care about high school sports. Those staffs keep stats, write stories, take pictures, do the layout -- pretty brutal schedule.
The questions are good, the opinion is valid. Just trying to shed some light on the subject.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Thu, 12/15/2005 - 7:55pm.

Look. I appreciate the fact that the 'O' zones its high school features. But yes, most of their features do fall into the lame-ass category (few sources, relatively little background) and yes, most of them run with photos shot at practices (despite the the fact that each of the athletes covered plays at least once -- and in may cases twice -- per week).
I would admit to not being specific enough with my comment about their reporters' work rate -- what I meant is that almost none of them individually writes as many as two stories per week. In total, between all 6-8 prep writers (Fernas, Ulmer, Binder, Blue, Mooney, McCray and probably a couple others I can't remember), they probably put out as many as 4-5 different stories per week. Go get 'em.
As to the smaller papers, that was what the original post was actually asking about -- which ones are good, which are not etc.?

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Tue, 12/13/2005 - 6:51pm.

give a rat's ass about high school sports unless you had a kid in high school?
and did i read word one about the PSU Women's soccer team? no.
when the word provincial was invented, they were talking about pdx.

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Tue, 12/13/2005 - 7:43pm.

It was University of Portland

Submitted by Anonymous Source on Wed, 12/14/2005 - 9:59am.

"snark" It's fun to watch people bitch when they don't have a clue what they're talking about... like they don't know the difference between UP and PSU. "snark"

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