You Can't Keep a Good Woman Down, and KPOJ's Witty Approach: A Review of L'Affaire Rhodes

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 6:33pm.

I'll put my cards on the table right up front here; I am a fan of the Randi Rhodes, and what follows is perforce extremely personal opinion.

When I heard she was being suspended for remarks made in poor taste (but not on the air, and certainly no worse than some who get prominent air-time and endless passes for their behavior get (the gentle reader can compile their own lists)) I was dismayed, and when it happened that she was cashiered from Air America for those remarks, I was sorely disappointed.

Followers of the event have since learned (via a remarkably frank Randi who called in to Marc Maron (who was standing in for Mike Malloy on his NovaM program during a vacation break) that the event may well have been a power play on the part of Air America management to gain some leverage over her – from what we've heard on the air, AAR tried to get her to renegotiate her contract over it – that they did not have because Randi was one of AAR's biggest draws.

My eye all along has been how the POJ, which has gone a long way toward defining the "progressive talk" category, would handle this. We've always had the impression that Randi was one of the linchpins of the POJ lineup. When MIke Malloy disappeared from AAR, we endured a long dry spell and were quite thrilled with the way the POJ handled returning Mike to the lineup (we still would that he were on in PDX live, but apparently Mike is dominating the ratings in his time period, and we won't argue with success).

KPOJ has reacted, to be short, with admirable wit and aplomb. Randi, as reflected by the record, was picked up by NovaM even more quickly than she was dropped by AAR; she will be back on the air on Monday the 14th. Moreover, she will be back on the POJ as well.

As Loyal Listeners have been advised, Randi's program has been syndicated to KPOJ and will run in Randi's regular time spot, starting next Monday. Our Rhodian interregnum will be blessedly brief.

But what I have really found amusing (in the good way) is the way KPOJ has handled this awkward situation. The voice over the bumper music, almost from the first, changed, stating that this was "Not The Randi Rhodes Show ... for the time being". Randi Rhodes's rotator image on the KPOJ webpage was also suitably altered to reflect the reality:

Not Randi Rhodes Rotator Image from KPOJ

It all adds up to a impression of a nimble, "hands-on" approach to a totally-out-of-left-field (no pun intended) situation that the POJ handled with wit and style, which this arrogant opiner must tip his cap to.

Well done, KPOJ.

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Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 9:57pm.

Lemme get this straight...

A supposed lefty gets the axe for railing against another lefty?

1. She should have been more careful in her remarks.

2. Her audience (however few really became aware of what she said) would find her remarks in poor taste and running against her persona/on air antics.

3. I heard what she said and she's right.

4. It doesn't really matter now, you're happy and that is all that really matters to us all.

5. KPOJ is the uncola to Rush's cola.

6. Do these pants make me look fat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blkKbMN9hzc

If that is not your style try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXQPiukuHg

Good night and good luck.

Submitted by LynnS on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 12:29am.

kittehs!

(I'm getting a contact high from kissing Cablenut.)

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Lynn Siprelle * Fairy Blogmother

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 5:53am.

Didn't know Air America was still in existence. Same thing as Imus. Free speech only refers to the government. In other words, Randi is free to say whatever she wants to without fear of being imprisoned. She is not free from being fired. None of us are.

Submitted by pagani on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 11:34am.

Hmm, did you not know that the 3 to 6 time slot meant that she was on tape delay in PDX? If she was so great, wouldn't they carry her live? On the West coast, her "live" time is noon to 3. This wasn't a problem just HERE in PDX, either. Randi was delayed or preempted on many Air America stations for a variety of reasons. If she does well on KPOJ (delayed as it is) this doesn't reflect her national performance.

It's hard to justify that 400K plus salary with her lack of listeners on a national basis. And should I mention her (lack of) work ethic? How often did she manage to put in a full week of work without mysterious/unexplained absences? Rarely? This probably fed her low numbers: It's hard to keep listeners when you regularly tune-in only to hear a repeat of a show from the day before.

And then there's the (likely drunken) sidewalk splat that she tried to blame on muggers until mainstream media picked it up. That was a HUGE embarrassment for the network and is still one of the bigger jokes about lefty talk radio, yet AAR kept her anyway. And still the many many unexplained absences continued. Only on a lefty talk net could you get away with that...AND get 400 K! For AAR, it was money for nothing.

As to her remark - the one that caused her suspension - she called Hillary Clinton a "fucking whore" at an AAR/AAR Affiliate-sponsored event where she represented the company. This was yet another major embarrassment for AAR. Raise your hand - anyone here - if YOU could do that and NOT get fired.

That's what I thought. But Rhodes was only suspended for a week and half, not fired. And then she had the nerve to quit in a childish temper tantrum. That was the biggest favor she could have done for AAR management but she didn't intend it as a favor. She intended it to be an "I'm taking my toys and going home" move. Very juvenile.

Can you justify your claim that she was the "One of AAR's biggest draws" nationally? OH YES, ONE fanboy web site, without ANY ratings justification, declared her the "Number 1 Progressive Talkshow Host" and Randi milked that for all it was worth, putting it in many of her bumpers. The only problem was, there was never any truth behind it. But Rhodes has never let truth get in her way. Nobody ever asked her to back-up her bragging with real numbers. But I've noticed that fans don't ask many questions.

For what it is worth, the lefty fanboy's only justification for his baseless "Number One" award was that Rhodes was on in NYC and Los Angeles where (at that time) the real number one lefty was not. Fanboy forgot to mention that she was on fringe stations in NYC and LA and had NO numbers in those markets.

You sycophants out there ought to take her advice and start fact-checking her on a regular basis. You'll be disappointed but enlightened.

Submitted by TALPDX on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 12:32pm.

When it comes to Randi Rhodes, I’ve never been a huge fan. I agree with much of what she says, but again, I’ve never been much entertained by her radio program. However, I do feel there is a double standard at play in this matter. The two most offensive talk show hosts on radio, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage, make grossly offensive remarks on a routine basis – without regard to any notion of the truth. With that said, their syndicators do nothing to punish these individuals. But instead, pay them hefty salaries and heavily promote their respective programs.

I guess Randi Rhodes was working for the wrong network.

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 8:03pm.

TALPDX wrote:
When it comes to Randi Rhodes, I’ve never been a huge fan. I agree with much of what she says, but again, I’ve never been much entertained by her radio program. However, I do feel there is a double standard at play in this matter. The two most offensive talk show hosts on radio, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage, make grossly offensive remarks on a routine basis – without regard to any notion of the truth. With that said, their syndicators do nothing to punish these individuals. But instead, pay them hefty salaries and heavily promote their respective programs.

I guess Randi Rhodes was working for the wrong network.

Nicely put. FWIW, I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't like Randi Rhodes. Nobody will like everybody. It would be a boring world if we all like the same things all the time.

And your examples of Limbaugh and Savage are extremely well-taken. Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage have said the most despicable, evil, and wrong things about people they don't like and still manage to make a prosperous living with no decrease to their public reputations. I recall hearing things that Savage in particular has said about minorities and Limbaugh about women which are several times worse and dastardly and Just. Plain. Wrong, that in a world not too far removed to the past would have made them pariahs. People just shrug, "what are you gonna do?" and move on.

There's a huge double standard. There's no doubt about that.

Samuel John Klein, a/k/a ZehnKatzen
samuel.klein@gmail.com or zehnkatzen@gmail.com
graphically involved at http://zehnkatzen.blogspot.com

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 1:11pm.

Far too serious!!!!

Dudes (and dudettes):

When all is said and done, there are two people that listen to this kind of stuff on the radio: Those with strong opinions and those without. The reality is: None of it matters-at all!

This whole thing is so funny!

Take a pill.

Take out the trash.

Take my suggestion and do what one cat did to break up a fight!

Love and peace to all!

Deidre Holliman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDbGqJ2KYk

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 1:17pm.

I heard the promos, but hadn't seen the image you posted from their site. That's funny. Yes, good for them for having a little fun with an awkward situation. Mostly I'm glad they're still going to carry her show, since I'm a regular listener.

AA had a lot of nerve trying to get Randi to amend her contract to give them the ability to fire her, which previous management agreed to leave out. (WTF? Why they did that is beyond me.) A contract is a contract. Deal with it.

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 7:57pm.

Anonymous Source wrote:
I heard the promos, but hadn't seen the image you posted from their site. That's funny. Yes, good for them for having a little fun with an awkward situation. Mostly I'm glad they're still going to carry her show, since I'm a regular listener.

AA had a lot of nerve trying to get Randi to amend her contract to give them the ability to fire her, which previous management agreed to leave out. (WTF? Why they did that is beyond me.) A contract is a contract. Deal with it.

I don't know why they did that either. But if anyone ever offers me that deal, I'll take it ...

Yeah, the whole point of my discourse was that I thought that KPOJ handled the whole thing with wit and style. I found myself amused whenever the voice-over the bumper happened. And I was very impressed with the way KPOJ was all over a situation that they knew would get attention. Very hands on. Deftly handled.

FWIW, I buy Randi's side of the story. If some people can't handle that fact, that isn't my problem. I feel Randi's been amongst the most honest and truthful hosts as far as her audience is concerned. If someone wants to call me a name like "sycophant" based on my opinion ... oh, well.

Like I said, not my problem. I like Randi, and I came by that opinion honestly.

Samuel John Klein, a/k/a ZehnKatzen
samuel.klein@gmail.com or zehnkatzen@gmail.com
graphically involved at http://zehnkatzen.blogspot.com

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 8:19pm.
Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 2:50am.

I got tired of Randi after about 2 years. Now it is a bit hard to listen to her. I would imagine she doesn't have the noon-3 slot because Ed Shultz has it, and frankly, he is pretty good. He certainly grew on me and now he is my favorite. I also like Thom Hartmann & Rachel Maddow. Don't know what happened to the English chick, she was also pretty good.

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 6:35pm.

Anonymous Source wrote:
I got tired of Randi after about 2 years. Now it is a bit hard to listen to her. I would imagine she doesn't have the noon-3 slot because Ed Shultz has it, and frankly, he is pretty good. He certainly grew on me and now he is my favorite. I also like Thom Hartmann & Rachel Maddow. Don't know what happened to the English chick, she was also pretty good.

Laura Flanders is the Englishwoman to whom I think you refer.

I agree with you on Rachel – the show lost a bit of its comic edge when Kent Jones was sacked, but she's still listenable, smart as h311, and has a marvelous sense of the absurd in it all.

Thom? No question! I'm still impressed with the POJ for making it worth his while to move all the way here from Vermont. We can say he's our very own now, and I like that.

I've always liked Ed too.

Samuel John Klein, a/k/a ZehnKatzen
samuel.klein@gmail.com or zehnkatzen@gmail.com
graphically involved at http://zehnkatzen.blogspot.com

Submitted by LynnS on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 9:07pm.

Kent Jones. HOW can you have Kent Jones Now, without Kent Jones--Now?! wail!

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Lynn Siprelle * Fairy Blogmother

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 11:50am.

... is like a day without sunshine. Dark, sarcastic, witty sunshine.

LynnS wrote:
Kent Jones. HOW can you have Kent Jones Now, without Kent Jones--Now?! wail!

Hey, maybe he'll turn up over on NovaM. Stranger things have happened. Recently, in fact.

Vigilance!

Samuel John Klein, a/k/a ZehnKatzen
samuel.klein@gmail.com or zehnkatzen@gmail.com
graphically involved at http://zehnkatzen.blogspot.com

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 6:52pm.

The "English chick" is live on the weekend. When her show is fed by AA.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:58am.

I don't know about Savage. He's so fringe, his audience must surely be as small as Rhodes. However, there is no comparison to the 20 to 30 million listeners Rush has. He can pretty much say what he wants, money and ratings talk.

And let's face it, Rhodes trashed people on the left. And folks on the left don't take trashing very well, especially from one of their own. You'll be out on your butt pretty fast.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 9:00am.

Let's face it, Randi Rhodes was/is a left wing extremist hate-monger. How could anyone enjoy listening to this woman who was filled with nothing but anger and hate for this country? Perhaps she can get a radio gig in Cuba where her leftist anti-American views can find a new audience.

Submitted by ZehnKatzen on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 11:46am.

I see what you did there.

That's some crusty hackwork.

Hint: The 70's ended 28 years ago. Please try to keep up.

Samuel John Klein, a/k/a ZehnKatzen
samuel.klein@gmail.com or zehnkatzen@gmail.com
graphically involved at http://zehnkatzen.blogspot.com

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 12:32pm.

Anyone have any idea what impact losing Rhodes will mean to Air America's feasibility? They still have Hartmann and Maddow, but Schultz, Malloy and now Rhodes are distributed by other syndicators and apparently more popular than their AA alternatives.
That said, even if AA went away tomorrow they would deserve to be credited with establishing left of center talk on a national basis.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 1:28am.

I actually find it refreshing that she would speak with such candor and, yes, a certain degree of immaturity. I am more tired and nearly disgusted by the constant rhetoric and insincere commentary we receive from media, politicians, celebs and various people in the media that fall all over themselves to NOT criticize another person or rock the boat. Yes, she could have been more sensitive or diplomatic with her comment but you know what, what she said is exactly how she felt and I for one am glad she let it fly. Then again, I don't have a 6-figure salary hanging in the balance. I am glad though that my place of employment WOULD stand for me saying the same thing about one of my superiors. I realize I am in the minority there though.

Submitted by pagani on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 7:47pm.

It was never true. She was never even close to her claim... One FANBOY blogspot site gave her that title and she uses it in drops like there is something behind it. Rhodes fans should be thoroughly embarrassed by this!

I'm not an Ed Schultz fan, but it is a fact that he is number one by audience size among progressive/liberal talkers. The reasons are simple: He gets real numbers and is on far more stations than Rhodes - even BEFORE Randi had her snit fit and ran crying to Nova M. And now that she is down to a handful of stations, her ridiculous claim has slipped from just plain false to laughable.

Unlike the fanboy on blogspot, Talkers Magazine uses actual ratings numbers to determine who is doing well in the format. Here, Schultz gets enough listeners to make #8 on the list of the top 100 talkers in all genre. The next liberal down is Allan Colmes at 16. Syndicated by Fox, Colmes is on more stations than all the other liberal nets combined, but he's on late night which makes it tough for numbers. Then we have Thom Hartmann (AAR) at 23. Jones' Stehpanie Miller is at 28 on the list. AAR's Lionel is at 31 - all by the numbers.

Oh, and Randi Rhodes your hero, the "number one progressive talk show host in the nation"? Well Rhodes came in at # 40 ...BEFORE she lost all those stations by moving to Nova M. So that was the peak of her career.

If she wants to have credibility with any NON-sycophant types, she could start by canning the "number one" BS.

And once again I urge all Rhodes sycophants to take her advice and start fact-checking the things she says. Not by going to her favorite links but by doing your own information search. As I said before, you will be very disappointed but you will also be enlightened.

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