On-set Product Placement: Is KPTV Next?

Submitted by bigboy on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 12:25pm.

As reported in the New York Times today, Meredith-owned stations are accepting product placement deals with various brands e.g. McDonald's iced coffee on the anchor desk.

Is it really a big deal though? I assume there are financial arrangements associated with some Good Day Oregon live shots.

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Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 7:09pm.

I don't really care if KPTV went for some product placement, but I feel like McDonald's would look tacky. Starbucks, Seattle's Best, or Pete's is cool, but anything less throws credibility down.

Kimberly Maus drinking McDonald's? I think not.

Good Day Oregon already has that McDonald's logo on the scroll on the bottom of the screen that looks tacky enough as it is.

Have a nice day

Submitted by TALPDX on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 7:27pm.

I wouldn't be surprised if KOIN sells advertising space on their news vehicles. They will look a Tri-Met bus driving down the street, with all the placards plastered on the sides, top and backs of their vehicles.

Submitted by Marty (not verified) on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 8:44am.

Nothing would surprise me about KPTV. I am waiting for their vans and cars to look like NASCAR vehicles soon! Oh darn now they will do that and I could have gotten a commission!

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 3:56pm.

I'm literally sick.
This is the most disgusting decision ever.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 8:58pm.

...and call me in the morning.

Submitted by Robert on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 9:05pm.

What's your number?

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 4:43pm.

They already do that with Oregon Sports Final. Have you seen that ugly "Toyota" anchor desk? By the way, that same desk is used in the Traffic Center for the afternoon news. They can't even get a full traffic center. Oh yeah, there's a Toyota logo IN the traffic center too.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 10:07pm.

So when product placement shows up at the anchor desk, any credibility of honest and objective new reporting is gone, if it was ever there at all. Is it any wonder why people don't believe corporate media anymore?

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 8:59pm.

at all

Submitted by JimL on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 7:44am.

This is a terrific way to balance station budgets and make certain all that they can continue to share all that important, unbiased information with viewers. Oversized plastic Coke glasses like Simon has on the desk on Idol. A big phone with the Vonage logo on the set. A McCain bumper sticker plastered across the front of the news set. The possibilities are endless.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 9:13am.

...Product Placement I mean.
And i'll tell you why: "Pat Mc-placement"--their ND/Station Mgr, has no reason not to.
Product placement and him are like a burger and fries---made for eachother
With all the youth at KPTV (and it starts at the top), i'm sure nobody even feels one iota of being conflicted by the practice;
Bottom line---the kids in the business today don't even remember when content wasn't for sale----the news product was as a whole--- but not the content within.
Now nobody even bats an eyelash at it? What the hell is up with that?!
It Is Wrong !!!!
Makes Money? Yes---But WRONG. Then again, do you think these anchors today(whose faces will be attached to/selling the products)will wage war against it to keep their credibility intact?
I get the feeling KPTV's anchors would get a tattoo on their cheek if the payout was good enough.
It'll be great--just like HSN or QVC; They can even put the prices of the products on the left-third of the screen with a number to call and order a cup of McDonalds coffee, or case of coke, or what ever is sitting on the anchor desk. Next thing you know, Kermit the Frog dolls and Tonka trucks are hanging out stage-right.

But again, why expect standards to still be upheld, when in fact there are no standards left to hold up. Like trying to wrap your hand around a fart---amusing, but ineffective.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 10:34pm.

If you weren't so OLD, still wallowing in the memories of the good OLD days, with all your OLD buddies, busy complaining about how the business has gone to hell in a hand basket, you might realize how completely laughable your comments are.
First of all, Patrick "Mc-Younger-than-you-old-man" isn't really that young.
Second of all, everyone knows anchors can't have tattoos in places anyone can see, that just puts off the viewers.
Third, only a freaky old man like you would think it's amusing to wrap your hand around a fart. You're a real sick-o.
Now why don't you go an enjoy a nice big glass of prune juice and call it a day old-timer. Wouldn't want you to miss out on your morning constitution.

Submitted by JimL on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 8:58pm.

However inelegantly his remark may have been put, he spoke truth when he said, "With all the youth ... nobody even feels one iota of being conflicted by the practice."

There are three groups of people in the media today ...
(1) those old enough to have had standards,
(2) those too young to have been taught what they are, and
(3) those caught in the middle who are trying to survive.

The first and second are at each other's throats because they see the world differently. The third group sees it most clearly but is scared witless, just trying to survive because it's a very bad time to be trying to start a career in real estate.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 6:51pm.

Age has nothing to do with it. Most people my age (under 30) in the business have problems with product placement. I come from newspapers though, can't speak for T.V.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 8:56pm.

The sheer stupidity displayed by this person's comments points directly to the very reason for the demise of television news - not that TV news ever had very far to fall in the first place.

Product placement will speed up the rotting process, boring out credibility and destroying viewer confidence. Once the decay starts, there is almost nothing to be done to stop it. The worst part is the guilt-by-association syndrome. Even if only Channel 12 is doing product placement, the damage flows to all the other local stations in short order.

So, while Mr. Moron here is defending product placement as being acceptable due to deteriorating economic conditions in the broadcasting business, his simplistic analysis fails to point out that the mere act of product placement will send local TV news plummeting faster and deeper into the abyss of hollowed-out insignificance. Just see how hard it will be to sell air time on a station with that reputation, you dolt.

Submitted by Flattail (not verified) on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 12:26pm.

Sad, very sad.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 4:45pm.

Like the movie industry has never done this??
It's all about the $$$$$

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Thu, 07/24/2008 - 5:16pm.

Albeit AMNW. Some coffee company has two mugs and I believe two small signs placed in the background. Typical of KATU, I could not tell you the name of the coffee! Hello marketing dept? I think the product placement is broken. I also like the free "PANASONIC" logo in the vertical newsroom monitor used by KGW. It is very visible, right next to the talents ear. I wonder if they even know they could sell that? To me it does not really matter what is placed, as long as it is done with taste. Also, constant references to the "First Live Local Toilet brought to you by George Morlan Plumbing" is not in good taste. (Just a tip 12'ers!)

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 5:17am.

Kim & Julie doing Victoria Secrets ??

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 12:30pm.

In the Olden Days, it went well beyond product placement.

Here's part of the Wikipedia entry on the "Camel News Caravan" that aired on NBC at the same time Edward R. Murrow was holding sway on CBS...

"The Camel News Caravan was a 15 minute prime time American television news program aired by NBC from 1949 to 1956. Sponsored by the Camel cigarette brand and anchored by John Cameron Swayze, it the first NBC news program to use NBC filmed news stories rather than movie newsreels. In early 1955, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco, maker of Camel cigarettes, cut back its sponsorship to three days a week. Chrysler's Plymouth division sponsored the other days, and on those days, the program was labelled the Plymouth News Caravan. The program featured a young Washington correspondent named David Brinkley. It competed against Douglas Edwards with the News on CBS."

That was followed by years of network newscasts with advertising logos like "Exxon" plastered prominently on the front of the desk.

And the level of journalism was rather high then, despite the ads, perhaps because Britney, Lindsay, and Paris weren't born yet to show us the True Path for TV news...

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Sat, 07/26/2008 - 5:22pm.

This practice was also very common during the Radio Days. News and commentary programs were often named for the sponsors. And regular programs often integrated the commercials into the program, such as Fibber McGee & Molly/Simonize and Jack Benny/Jello.

Submitted by .Chris on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 8:20pm.

Nice local touch. Andy did go to the grand opening at the hillsboro location one if not the only locations that have indoor siting as well as a drive through. heres the pic

http://a322.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/105/l_a18cbe788422a52a47e6...

and the website

http://www.driveupcoffee.com/home/

my dad met andy, said hes a very private person.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 2:17pm.

I am an old guy for this business. Been at it for 33 years. We use to have Coors Beer logos all over our election sets when I first started. They also gave us free beer, before the world tried to get respectable. Those were the good old days. I've been pushing for "product placement" for years. The viewers don't care. They are bomarded with images and messages on a continual basis. No one has a problem with ads on their news internet sites. What difference does it make to put a coffee cup with a logo on it on a set? If product placement brings more money to the bottom line, so be it. If I could pull it off, I would put sponsor logos on news vehicles. Think of the square footage on an ENG truck?

Submitted by Hunter Thompson on Mon, 07/28/2008 - 8:13pm.

I too am a veteran broadcaster and I'm here to tell you that the Good Old Days, as referred to by some of the more crusty commenters on this issue, were anything but good. Even back in the 50s and early 60s, before we knew smoking caused cancer, how can anyone possibly think that watching Edward R. Murrow sucking down one camel after another as he queried his guests could be a good thing?

I worked a newscast where the anchor/News Director not only read the news, but read the commercials (mostly for a local Savings and Loan) and then dipped his head and went back to the news reading. How many stories about that S&L, or about banks in general, did that News Department produce? Few, if any.

That said, given the Infotainment nature of current News broadcasts, there is probably no reason at all why the anchors shouldn't be wearing Ray-Bans and drinking Evian on set.

Submitted by Myhousemf on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 4:39pm.

KATU has La-Z-Boy sponsoring their "Gas Saver Spotlight" segment.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 7:26am.

I stumbled across a couple of references to a recent article from Advertising Age magazine, the bible for marketers, public relations experts and creative pimps everywhere. The article quoted liberally from an interview with Mark Hass, the President of Manning, Selvage and Lee, “one of the largest U.S. public relations companies.” The premise of the article dealt with the practice of PR firms, ad agencies and advertising clients to use their financial clout as a way of applying pressure and influencing content for newspapers, television and other mass media outlets.

From the article, excerpted from: http://www.detroitmakeithere.com/article/20080807/DM02/239980613/-1

“A survey conducted in May 2008 on behalf of Manning, Selvage &Lee, and the trade publication PR Week found that nearly one in five senior marketers "say their organizations have bought advertising in return for a news story." The survey queried 252 U.S. chief marketing officers. "The survey also found that 10 percent of senior marketers said their organizations have had an implicit / non-verbal agreement with a reporter or editor that anticipated favorable coverage of their company or products in exchange for advertising," according to an MS&L press release.

The article goes on to say, “The sixth-annual MS&L Marketing Management Survey, done in conjunction with PRWeek, found that 19 percent of the 252 chief marketing officers and marketing directors surveyed said their organizations had bought advertising in return for a news story. That represents one in five senior marketers and is up from 17 percent last year.

"I'm not saying it's a huge problem," Hass said. "But 19 percent of senior marketers saying they do it constitutes a problem."

That's particularly true in this age of transparency. "One type of coverage you buy and the other you achieve through persuasive argument, making it a credible source of information and not something that has to be taken with a grain of salt," Hass said. "There needs to be credible, independent media, and the marketing industry should not be doing anything to undermine credible editorial quality."

This year's study also found that 8 percent of respondents, up from 5 percent in 2007, said their organizations paid or provided a gift of value to an editor or producer to place a news story about the company or one of its products. And 10 percent said their organizations have at one time or another had an "implicit/non-verbal agreement with a reporter or editor that you expect to see favorable coverage of your product or company in exchange for advertising."

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 12:27am.

Just to play devil's advocate here, how is the product placement we're talking about here different from the web. On all the news websites, there are ads right next to copy, and within copy as well. Same with papers. Everyone keeps harping on how TV needs to be more like the web, yet this is taboo? Now, doing stories for advertising should be forbidden but I'm just trying to understand why people get all worked up about this, yet don't complain about NBC.com or FOXnews.com having ads next to stories, or pop up ads when you click on a story.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 10:32am.

Maybe they think that TV journalism is not like print journalism.
Both print and WEB journalists have no problem with having their stories sponsored in the column next to their story.
For some reason this has become taboo in TV. I don't say this is all bad but I'm old enought to remember the John Swazey "camel caravan". Edward R. Murrow with a pack of camels on the desk beside him and the lead-in telling viewers who the sponsor was. Local anchors with sponsor logos on the front of their desk.
Did this make any less journalists than those in print?
No!
But it gives present day anti-TV journalists an opportunity to complain.
I have seen none of this product placement on the air during newscasts but that does not seem to stop people from complaining about it.
Until it happens, STOP!

Submitted by LynnS on Wed, 08/20/2008 - 10:34pm.

When Camel sponsored Murrow, you knew that Camel was sponsoring Murrow. When the station in Las Vegas puts McDonalds iced coffees on the anchor desk in front of the anchors, nothing is said about the placement. It's just there.

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Lynn Siprelle * Fairy Blogmother

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