Digital TV Subchannels

Submitted by drchaps on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 1:28am.

I wanted to start a conversation particularly on The Box and the technology it employs. Where does everyone think its headed? Where does everyone think digital subchannels will go in the next 10 years?

I picked up my first HDTV antenna from ebay this week (A Zenith HDTV1 antenna to be precise) on my LG LCD HDTV tuner and it rocks. It's completely different engineering wise of course, but for those of you in who just casually visit this board should realize that you don't see static anymore. Its either a full signal, a medium signal with some skipping or a bad signal with a ton of skipping or a drop of signal. Personally I'd rather deal with the static and a picture than the darn skipping and loss of audio. Also, along with that loss of static is the loss of certain signals. Where I live in Gresham, I can't get both KGW and KPXG at the same time on their digital feeds, making me lose out on the PAX and Worship feeds I was eager to at least look at. I have to get up and repoint the antenna to make it work. Aside from that, I get the channel 8 weather feed, create tv on PBS and multiple religious channels (although these are not hardly watched in my house... How much Enlace do I need?)

One channel I eagerly heard about and came across though was The Tube, and if you are a 30 something male or female, you can appreciate the brilliance and simplicity of this channel. It was the brainchild of Les Garland, a major influence in VH1 and MTV early on and just plays music videos, something I hardly see on any of the two aforementioned foes. Info on how to view can be found below:

http://www.thetubetvinfo.com/howtowatch/

It's a subchannel here locally of KWBP, and shares revenue with each station it airs and partners with. The music video content is free, which is primarily why I think a station like this can be so successful even with only a fraction of the populus watching it. What I want to know is why others haven't found ways yet to use the digital subchannels as we are only 3 years away from Analog broadcasts ceasing altogether. TBN has been the only one to date who has gone out and fully embraced this technology which I find saddening to those of us who might feel we can dump our cable in favor of an old pair of bunny ears again.

USDTV, which was started by a few in Salt Lake City was trying a new technology in which ESPN, Disney, Fox News and a number of other channels were put on spare subchannels in the digital spectrum and were only available through their special decoder, which put feeds on channel 99. USDTV recently filed for Chapter 7 protection last month and looks to be liquidated unless a buyer can be found.

Ultimately it brings me to ask why haven't networks found ways to lease out or create new networks for their subchannels as a revenue generating stream? I'm guessing Fisher will put Univision on a subchannel of KATU, but why haven't others like FOX or CBS put together rerun programming on its subchannels affiliates run? I would think there would be some interest in an all 20th century rerun channel, or a Paramount spinoff channel on the CW or CBS spare spectrum. There isn't much in rerun contracts of lesser seen shows (think Dallas, Mr. Ed, Quiz show or others) and older movies are finally starting to emerge out of their patent lifecycles and are free for public showing.

Anyone have any dirt on what will happen or thoughts on what should be done?

( topics: )
Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 10:15am.

I tuned into the game Sunday to watch it in Hi Definition and let me tell you -- the audio wasn't synced up to the people.

It was OK during the game, but when they jumped to the analysts it was very, very, very annoying. It felt like a bad Japanese movie.

I wonder if there is a way to fix this on my end, or if it's something to do with the satellite feed they get at the station. I had to switch back to standard resolution to be able to watch.

Submitted by Cablenut on Wed, 08/23/2006 - 10:35am.

There are a couple of audio feeds that come with an HD signal. If they aren't "groomed" or cut down and synced up, there can be differences in audio.

They are probably using AC3 as their primary audio channel, which isn't native to HD format, but used almost exclusively for SD signals.

-------------------------------------------
DISCLAIMER: my opinions are my own, not those of OMI or any employer.

Submitted by tvprintradio on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 10:20am.

you need to wait till they make it easier.

Submitted by drchaps on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 11:40pm.

They have had this technology for almost 10 years now. There should start to be some perfection. I think until the mandate is less than a year away will we really start to see some focus. Sad for those of us who made the switch early.

Submitted by tvprintradio on Tue, 08/22/2006 - 12:04am.

youjust plug it in.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 08/22/2006 - 8:12am.

The simple answer is revenue stream. Most people won't use an OTA reciever to watch TV and the Cable/Satellite providers won't carry subchannels. So where is the money going to come from to pay for these subs?

KGW has been able to get their WX Plus subchannel on Comcast so selling it to advertisers is a little easier. Until the other stations can find a way to get their subs carried they won't spend any money.

Go to AVSforum.com to check out the ongoing debate. BTW this discussion is about five years behind the times.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Tue, 08/22/2006 - 8:23pm.

I work in broadcast tv, and I won't pay 40-50 bucks a month to a cable outlet, so I've been fighting with rabbit ears for years. Imagine my surprise, I get a new hdtv intergrated lcd tv, and I get gorgeous pictures with a simple uhf tuner! I love it. But I agree, even if the audience is small still, why not put something else on the extra bandwidth?

Submitted by superfly on Wed, 08/23/2006 - 7:18pm.

how easy it is to get DTV over the air.

Submitted by tvprintradio on Fri, 08/25/2006 - 9:50am.

it's that having more channels doesn't give you more to watch...or better. just more of the same, and worse.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Wed, 10/04/2006 - 2:06pm.

a simple vhf/uhf roof antenna will get you good reception in the portland area. no cable needed. just need a digital tuner which most new larger tv's are required to have. need to have an hd tuner for hd, but man, is it worth it ! free tv !

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Post new comment

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • You may quote other posts using [quote] tags.
  • Voting controls can be added to this post.
  • Web and e-mail addresses are automatically converted into links.
More information about formatting options