Steve Duin: taking the easy way out

Submitted by t.a. barnhart on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 12:16am.

I write at BlueOregon. A lot. I take it very seriously, and I try to make sense while pushing buttons. Not the easiest trick, but I'm trying to learn. One thing I do, like almost everyone there, is allow comments. I also try to ignore the comments, because their are some A1 wackjobs trolling their way in. Worse, there are liberals and progressives who are so sure of their own opinions, they end up resorting to name-calling and personal attacks when they don't like the responses they're getting. If I let myself, I can really get dragged into some unpleasant waters. So mostly I (try to) ignore the comments and move on to the next piece.

Steve Duin, it appears, just doesn't care to even allow comments. His blog, which is tiny unless dealing with graphic novels (and I'm a huge fan of the genre, so I appreciate reading what he says about these) doesn't allow for feedback, aka "comments". Which is his prerogative, but, imo, chicken. Especially when you discover he's called you "hysterical" and "disingenuous" as he did me, when dismissing my post in BlueOregon against M46 (which is an attack on free speech, or so I said in agreement with Ursula LeGuin, who ranks higher than Duin in both thought & written word -- to me).

I've posted twice in BO about M46, so I'm not going to do a third, especially when what I'm peeved about is Duin using his very large platform to commend commentors who spent days writing personal attacks on me and others, simply because they cannot promise that passage of M46 won't result in free speech limits (read the damn thing). Tom Civiletti gets hero treatment from Steve Duin; I get silenced.

Near-silence: in the background, if you concentrate, you can hear the cackling of chickens. I think they're Big O Yellows.

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Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 12:58am.

The Web whizzes at OregonLive haven't figured out how to allow comments, or how to moderate them, or whatever, so right now all the O blogs are just Web posts.

Once they get it figured out, I'd love to see some dialogue on the Duin posts (and the Canzano posts, and the Carlin posts, and the Levy posts, and apply directly to the forehead etc. etc. etc.).

Submitted by walterburns on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 1:12am.

The decision to not yet enable comments lies with OregonLive and Advance Internet. Most Oregonian bloggers are itching for comments. Advance promises they're coming soon. (Of course, they've been saying that for well over a year.) Comments are enabled on the Blazers blog, for one, but that blog isn't done by Oregonian staffers.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 2:07am.

The Oregonian's blogs used to be a Movable Type install -- and they could have turned on comments with a single click of the mouse. Now, it's something else - and I can't figure it out; but this notion that they can't turn on comments is stupid. I've programmed my own comments-open website in a matter of 2-3 days. Sure, not enterprise-level, but they've got a bunch of staffers and have had over a year. Get with the program.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 5:19pm.

The Oregonian and the Web site operator are different companies.

The O has little power to alter the Web site or open blogs for comments.

Submitted by rocky on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 8:21am.

I read a lot of journalists over the net and none that I read allow for commentary from the peanut gallery. This seems to be a newspaper's prerogative. I find no harm in this. If you wish to salve your ego than do as I do, and write your blog or comment as you have here and elsewhere. I read Steve's column and from time to time converse with him.Unless you go to a blog site as Truth digs posting a comment on Molly's column and such does not exist. So who cares? I go there to read the views.

Submitted by Anonymous Source (not verified) on Fri, 11/03/2006 - 12:06pm.

especially when making negative comments about people. the O's website sucks beyond words (the frikkin Billings Gazette has a hugely better web), and this is just one more aspect of it. but Duin is going to use his blog to attack me and those who agree with me (disagree with him), he needs to provide some mechanism for feedback -- as i give to him & Dan Meek. i don't like pissing off Meek, he's a good guy, but he's wrong on M46, i said so, and i welcome his voice in my posts.

i wish Duin and the O did the same.

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