Oregon Media Insiders

All you alls, listen up. And I mean ALL YOU ALLS!!!!
News is about reporting the facts. Fact, multiple law enforcement agencies conducted an internet sting to catch online predators looking for sex from minor children. Fact, a man agreed to meet a teen at a specific location at PDX. Fact, the man flew from Seattle to PDX and ended up at that specific location in order to meet said minor child. Fact, police took the man into custody. Fact, it was reported by KPTV with the blessings of said multiple law enforcement agencies. This is news, and in the larger scheme of things, news is meant to incite debate and discussion. A majority of you watched and are now debating and discussing. This is news.

..if you attitude reflects the professionalism (or lack thereof) found at KPTV, then my Nielson eyes will be tuned elsewhere. Hopefully others will do the same.

You should be ashamed of your blantant grandstanding over a story you created. That's just as pathetic as that chump you had arrested.

You're p*ssing all over broadcast journalism, and if you're not ashamed by that..then you're beyond help.

There are good people at KPTV, but judging by your 8th grade taunts, you're not one of them.

This sting was a police operation. In the old days, when reporters had 'beats' to check, they would hear about stories like this all the time. 20 years ago in Boise, our station followed police on numerous busts. News has gotten fat and lazy. The story has merit. The execution may have been a little rough, but don't shoot the messenger.

"but how is it NOT solid journalism when KPTV does it, but it is when Dateline does it?"

It is NOT solid journalism when Dateline does it. I don't have a problem with what pervertedjustice does, but when Dateline pays them to do it, I do have some ethics questions.
When Dateline, a 'news' organization pays a company to lie to people, not only are they creating news, but they are broadcasting to the nation that they are not to be trusted.

Not in this sting. It was all law enforcement, federal and local. No one was chatting online with the pervs who was not a member of law enforcement.

I was commenting on Dateline, not the local police.
Heck, that's kinda why I put that whole quote section at the top of my post. So people would know I was talking about that and not the local sting.
Next time I try to speak to a specific phrase in a blog I'll start:
------->>>>>>I am specifically talking about this quote!
"..."<<<<<<<----------Please remember, what I am typing only has context to this quote! If I type about something else, I'll let you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crap... Or I could just use the quote feature. Don't I feel like an ass? Not much of one though.

Another key player in all this BS is KPTV's Gen. Manager. IMHO, He's the often-unspoken-of person behind the moral decline of KPTV, so You might want to let him know how you feel too, because i'm sure he's a major driving force behind all the sleaze on their air.
Don't believe me? Ask anyone who works there (if they don't fear for their job they'll tell you... I promise)

The GM arrived at KPTV long after the station's news format went through a dramatic change. He is responsible for boosting revenue at the station, and does it well. He keeps his hands out of news content.

The GM was hired long after that ship sailed, although he is helping keep it afloat. The morale decline started with Troy Mcguire who was the architect behind all that KPTV is today. Now he is in position to do the same thing to another PDX station - KATU.

KPTV didn't create the news, it was an actual sting, set up by police. KPTV got to watch and record the operation exclusively.
And the fact is, you may not have liked it, but the viewer e-mails thanking us for doing the story prove that there were many other viewers who did.
And another thing, KPTV did this type of story before Dateline ever did.
As far as the "no girl" argument, who cares? He thought there was a girl. They all did, and they all came loaded up with lubricant, condoms and any number of tools of the trade. It's all about the intent, and their intent was crystal clear.

I got rid of my cable in late January.

Tomlinson questioned someone while they were in custody and in handcuffs? They couldn't get away and the cops let that go?

Wow.

That's cruel and unusual if you ask me.

I hope that guy has a good lawyer, because I would sue the station and the city.

From what I know of these things, the police give them their Miranda Rights. So you know what, if they don't want to talk to Kerry, they don't have to. In fact the last sting I thought there was a guy they arrested when he showed up and he never said a word when Kerry asked him questions. A good lawyer will not get you out of answering her when you were told you have a right to remain silent.

There is a right to remain silent and a right to be subjected to punishment while in custody. I think we can all agree that if watching Tomlinson on TV is bad, being the subject of the questions would be remarkably worse.

This doesn't bother anyone else?

If not, cool. I am glad I'm not in the TV news business -- it's more like selling used cars or snake oil these days.

See the interrogation for yourself
http://www.kptv.com/video/10937737/index.html

That's my question.

Great work detective! I guess you missed the part in the stories, on the web and in the teases where they say "FOX 12 teamed up with local law enforcement". They still haven't figured who stole the Lindbergh baby if you want to crack that case.

Yes it was a police operation with the cooperation of a local media orginzation.Usually the cops hate the media so what is wrong with them working together for the greater good. Truth be told they are taking people off the streets who want to hurt children. You people really worry about the wrong things. What would have happened if it wasn't the cops and tomlinson there when those guys came a calling. Would that have been better than some news show running a banner that said breaking news? I'm not gonna argue if that was right or wrong.It seems to be opinion anyway. But, come on people you want some thing to bitch about, bitch about something with real meaning that actually hurts people and screws them up for life. Do you think this is the first time some of these guys have done this? NO it is the first time they were caught. It can't change what these idiots did in the past but maybe it will prevent them from doing it again. And when I think of it like that the petty BS that you people complain about doesn't seem to matter.

I think some of you bash KPTV's cybersting because you are afraid you might get busted yourself in one of the stings.

Side note- Cops read them the miranda rights and in some of the stories they show tomlinson tell the guy you don't have to say anything. Dateline can get away with asking questions beforehand because they do it in places that don't have a two party consent to record audio like Oregon does. And if they are wrong a judge will decide that, not some psych major from Reed college.

Anonymous 1:41 p.m.: "Not in this sting. It was all law enforcement, federal and local."

Anonymous 9:08 a.m.: "This was a police operation, not a KPTV operation."

Anonymous 1:35 p.m.: "KPTV didn't create the news, it was an actual sting, set up by police. KPTV got to watch and record the operation exclusively."

So, Mr. Kojak watcher, obviously KPTV did a wonderful job letting people know that they were involved with the story. Because many think that it was soley a police operation, when it wasn't. They rented the place -- making them a part of the news instead of just covering it.

So, before you insult people for not reading, might want to try it yourself.

Just saying...

They put it out there several times and in some of the earlier stings they even say they rented the house. You people are so tainted with hatred for KPTV you propably didn't want to hear that to begin with.
Insult maybe, but it was clear as day with all the promos and everything else put out. It just shows that some people here hate that station so much they ignore the important details like that. Not my fault. I'm just tired of hearing all the bashing and the hatred you people show for KPTV. Most of you people offer your wonderful opnions and go on to admit you never even seen the segment.That is just conditioned hatred and will go along with whatever the crowd says. Do they do sleazy news sometimes, yes so are all the other stations now. You have a choice watch or don't watch. Someone is watching and as long as there is an audience they will continue to do what they are doing. They are still taking pervs off the street who otherwise would be harming children -could be your sister, daughter, niece, cousin,etc. You people seem to be missing the big picture.
That is what is really sad.

Just saying.....

I'm just tired of hearing all the bashing and the hatred you people show for KPTV.

No, you aren't "just saying". You are accusing others of a bias, or perhaps you are taking a victim stance on behalf of your station.

You need to read more than just the threads on KPTV, Bro. You will find that the folks on this site take EVERYONE to task...KPTV, KGW, KOIN, KATU, TheO, WW, the Merc, B!x, everone has taken a taste of the bitter from time to time.

I will tell you that we here at the house of OMI lurv us some KPTV, but then again, we lurv us some of most all the news outlets (with the possible exception of Newsmax.) That doesn't mean that 12 doesn't mess up sometimes, and when they do, they catch it just like the others. Don't take it personal: use it as a critique tool. Think of this as a focus group without the cruddy pizza and from intelligent sources.

I, for one, am a bit leery of news taking part in MAKING stories, and this seems like they did just that. Sort of a "Man Bites Dog" feel to it.

AS for taking pervs off the street. These folks aren't "pervs". A "perv" likes whips, blindfolds, leather, maybe some places off Sandy BLVD...these are criminals of the worst kind.

The big picture is that a news crew went in with the police to catch folks who are doing horrible things. Nothing more, nothing less.

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DISCLAIMER: my opinions are my own, not those of OMI or any employer.

They should have gone to the police academy, not J-school.

I think it's safe to say I have equal disdain for all TV "news" stations in town, not just KPTV.

The point was that don't come on here saying it was a total police operation, when it obviously wasn't.

That's it.

Kojak.

I think it's safe to say I have equal disdain for all TV "news" stations in town, not just KPTV.

Good your not biased or anything!!!

At least I gave full disclosure, unlike some who post anonymously.

Full disclosure right. You would have a point if you actually gave your real name not call yourself freelancer. Is freelancer your given name? What's your first name;a? Is that your mothers last name or your fathers? Whay nationality is that? Right full disclosure,see making up a name to call yourself online is anynomous.

You can track what Freelancer has said throughout the site. "Pseudonymous" is the term, I believe.

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Lynn Siprelle * Fairy Blogmother

Now THAT is a perjorative statement:

I think some of you bash KPTV's cybersting because you are afraid you might get busted yourself in one of the stings.

uhhh...could it be that folks are a little uneasy with the news crews setting up shop with the police for stings, regardless the target? There *are* lofty ideas being bandied about here, and you come off stating that everyone who objects is quilty of a horrible crime?!?!

It is NOT the job of the NEWS to *MAKE* the news. Sorry...leave that to the professionals, then REPORT on it.

The above quote just makes you come off looking like an a-hole, out for the latest "kick" in the ratings war, unconcerned about the direction of journalistic integrity.

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DISCLAIMER: my opinions are my own, not those of OMI or any employer.

You really should get a since of humor.

You I don't. His *sense* of humor works just fine. He married me, for instance!

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Lynn Siprelle * Fairy Blogmother

I didn't hint that those who question this report were child molesters, Bubba.

You did.

Just a hunch, but I have a feeling that that fact alone kinda gives us a glimpse into your inner fear cycle.

This isn't gonna devolve into a spelling flame, but...I Do Not Think That Word Means What You Think It Means. "sense" is the word you were looking for..."since" is an adverb meaning from a definite past time until now. Which IS ironic, as I had a SENSE of humor SINCE birth, but I have now managed to lose that same SENSE of humor I had SINCE your post.

So Pffffffffft :-P

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DISCLAIMER: my opinions are my own, not those of OMI or any employer.

You must not be any of the folks I know at 12, because I don't think any of them would be foolish enough to make such a statement. You cut your own legs right out from under any argument you might make with that.

Figures!

between Dateline NBC and a local newscast. If you don't know the difference --- then you're part of the problem.